Saturday, March 24, 2012

Atlas timeline

Hi

I'm building a application and are looking to add AJAX functionallity to it around may/june. But I'm not interested in using a alpha or beta version so it would be nice if any of the developers of Atlas could present a timeline for it. So I, and probably others too, can start planing for it in our own projects timeline.

And it would also be nice if you could tell a little of what kind of webcontrols/functionallity are planed to be in the final release.

Thanks.

Hi DiCoo,

We are going to be making some announcements regarding Atlas timing next week. Specifically, we are going to announce a go-live license that will be coming this spring -- which will allow you to deploy applications using the Atlas CTP drops.

Hope this helps,

Scott


If I understood it correctly, I cannot deploy my web site built with ATLAS dec CTP even thought it is only a personal site, e.g. non-profit hobby site ?

So I'll have to wait a couple of months (I am eagerly awaiting announcement next week) till I can upload it with atlas changes?

I didn't know that (tell me about reading the eulas :-), now I need to rewrite it haha...
Sounds great, thanks.


agarwaen wrote:

If I understood it correctly, I cannot deploy my web site built with ATLAS dec CTP even thought it is only a personal site, e.g. non-profit hobby site ?

So I'll have to wait a couple of months (I am eagerly awaiting announcement next week) till I can upload it with atlas changes?

I didn't know that (tell me about reading the eulas :-), now I need to rewrite it haha...

we can't? i thought based on terms of use:

Unless otherwise specified, the Services are for your personal and non-commercial use. You may not modify, copy, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from the Services.

shldn't this say that we can?


The first paragraph of the license specifies:

"INSTALLATION AND USE RIGHTS.

You may install and use any number of copies of the softwareon your premises to design, develop and test your programs for use with the software running on the Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 component of the applicable Microsoft Windows operating system.

You may not test or otherwise use the software in a live operating environment unless Microsoft permits you to do so under another agreement. You also may not use the software to deploy or publish web applications for any use by third parties. "
That does clarify it. However, there are many sites on the internet that give examples, and a live example on ways of working with atlas.

There are a few MS employees who have sites that feature atlas, as well as many bloggers who have atlas examples on their website. (live examples, with code).

Those examples provide no functionality to their site, only a means of helping the development community work with it. Are they breaking the license, or are those examples based on a "non-live operating environment"?

Yes, they are breaking the license unless they have a special aggreement with us.

Edit: they are breaking the license if the examples are *live*. Publishing code samples and articles is perfectly ok and even encouraged.


ScottGu wrote:

Hi DiCoo,

We are going to be making some announcements regarding Atlas timing next week. Specifically, we are going to announce a go-live license that will be coming this spring -- which will allow you to deploy applications using the Atlas CTP drops.

Hope this helps,

Scott

Has the go-live license announcement happened? If so, where can I find it?

Thanks


I am a little confused.Is a web site or a blog that has Atlas samples or tutorial, but it doesnot include the Atlas dlls and the javascripts to download, breaking the law? Can I publish tutorials, samples and documentation on my blog without the Atlas dlls? Do I need to remove any matter regarding Atlas that has been already published?

You are very much encouraged to talk about Atlas all you want, as well as write and publish sample code. The license does not prevent that in any way, fortunately.


ScottGu wrote:

Hi DiCoo,

We are going to be making some announcements regarding Atlas timing next week. Specifically, we are going to announce a go-live license that will be coming this spring -- which will allow you to deploy applications using the Atlas CTP drops.

Hope this helps,

Scott

Is there a go-live date yet?

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